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Babes in Toyland DVD at Big Lots!
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Homer
2007-12-06 11:41:41 UTC
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I've found the Babes in Toyland DVD colorized by Good times video for
only $2.00 at tow different Big Lots near me. Possibly in other
cities as well.
Jim Reid
2007-12-06 17:23:56 UTC
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Post by Homer
I've found the Babes in Toyland DVD colorized by Good times video for
only $2.00 at tow different Big Lots near me. Possibly in other
cities as well.
I'd almost give $2 to get someone to take mine off my hands. The new
MGM release has made all other versions obsolete.
Alan Glick
2007-12-06 21:57:30 UTC
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A reviewer on Amazon said that this movie,

"had already been presented uncut and with the original studio logo and
title cards on the 2006 Legend Films edition."

He's referring to this version which comes with the movie in black & white
and colorized.
http://www.amazon.com/March-Wooden-Soldiers-Frank-Austin/dp/B000HLDFKO/ref=sr_11_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1196977715&sr=11-1

Any comments on how this compares to the MGM release?
Alan Glick
Post by Jim Reid
I'd almost give $2 to get someone to take mine off my hands. The new
MGM release has made all other versions obsolete.
L***@hotmail.com
2007-12-06 22:49:58 UTC
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Yeah, let's all buy the fucking Legend version and inspire more
companies to "crayolize" B&W public domain classics, rather than buy
the MGM release and maybe inspire more Laurel & Hardy and classic film
releases. Good plan.
MJ
2007-12-07 04:24:01 UTC
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Post by L***@hotmail.com
Yeah, let's all buy the fucking Legend version and inspire more
companies to "crayolize" B&W public domain classics, rather than buy
the MGM release and maybe inspire more Laurel & Hardy and classic film
releases. Good plan.
I don't recall any push by anyone to get MGM to put a proper print on
the market. They snoozed, they loozed. As much as I dislike the
colorization concept, Legend did an excellent job from a tech
standpoint. Ethics aside, it's a beautiful print. The b&w version on
the same disc is fantastic, as well. And, yes, the original title
cards are there. If the MGM print doesn't sell well, it's only because
they waited for everyone else to take a shot at it and sell versions
of it before they took any action. We, as L&H fans, may buy multiple
copies, but we're not like normal people.
Kimba W Lion
2007-12-07 11:37:37 UTC
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Post by L***@hotmail.com
Yeah, let's all buy the fucking Legend version and inspire more
companies to "crayolize" B&W public domain classics, rather than buy
the MGM release and maybe inspire more Laurel & Hardy and classic film
releases. Good plan.
Yeah, FUCK THEM for restoring the B&W print! HOW DARE THEY!!!!

You colorization snobs just don't think about things.
Jim Reid
2007-12-07 12:46:08 UTC
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I don't give a rat's ass about colorization. The MGM release is the
only one that actually has the original 1934 released version. It's
beautiful.
Kimba W Lion
2007-12-07 15:02:07 UTC
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Post by Jim Reid
I don't give a rat's ass about colorization. The MGM release is the
only one that actually has the original 1934 released version. It's
beautiful.
That's fine. Kudos to MGM, and that is the release fans are likely to go
for. (However, I have no interest in the other films it's bundled with,
and MGM has pretty much hidden the release from people by bundling it. But
that's a separate issue.)

It's my understanding that MGM's release was not announced ahead of time;
certainly it was unknown when Legend Films prepared their release, which
was an excellent job of restoring a PD film _in_it's_original_
_black_and_white_. There are a lot of films being ignored by the original
studios that are worthy of the same treatment. If a colorized version
happens to share the same disc, it doesn't take away from the fact that
the film has been restored using the best available materials.
Jim Reid
2007-12-07 16:02:11 UTC
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On Dec 7, 9:02 am, Kimba W Lion <kimbawlion> wrote:
Legend Films prepared their release, which
Post by Kimba W Lion
was an excellent job of restoring a PD film _in_it's_original_
_black_and_white_. There are a lot of films being ignored by the original
studios that are worthy of the same treatment. If a colorized version
happens to share the same disc, it doesn't take away from the fact that
the film has been restored using the best available materials.
They are not the best materials. The Legend release is not the
complete 1934 version. It's also not PD. It's owned by Tribune
Entertainment. The colorization just an ugly sidebar.
L***@hotmail.com
2007-12-07 16:28:31 UTC
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"The colorization just an ugly sidebar."

"Yeah, but duhhhh... itz in KOLOR so pimples like ME kin appresh...
apreccia.... enjoy it two!"

Since that Stupid Guy (or Space Floss) isn't here, I did my best
impersonation of somebody who would actually buy or watch a colorized
B&W film.
Eric Perlin
2008-03-25 18:51:17 UTC
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Laughing Gravy wrote:

} Since that Stupid Guy (or Space Floss) isn't
} here, I did my best impersonation of somebody
} who would actually buy or watch a colorized
} B&W film.

Where did Space boss go? Is he back on his home planet?

Actually, I've knowingly bought colorized films years ago, but only when they
seemed to be the only versions available.

I bought the Cabin Fever colorized version of "Our Wife" about a year before my
cable company began to include AMC. Later, I recorded the B&W version off of AMC
and gave away my colorized tape.

The only time I would buy a colorized film is when I have to choose between it
or no version at all. Of course, now that out-of-print VHS and DVD films can be
easily obtained through web sites like Amazon and eBay, this situation is
unlikely to come up again.
cseguin
2007-12-07 22:55:28 UTC
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What's missing from the Legend Black & White version?
Post by Kimba W Lion
Legend Films prepared their release, which
Post by Kimba W Lion
was an excellent job of restoring a PD film _in_it's_original_
_black_and_white_. There are a lot of films being ignored by the original
studios that are worthy of the same treatment. If a colorized version
happens to share the same disc, it doesn't take away from the fact that
the film has been restored using the best available materials.
They are not the best materials. The Legend release is not the
complete 1934 version. It's also not PD. It's owned by Tribune
Entertainment. The colorization just an ugly sidebar.
Thomas Stillabower
2007-12-08 05:34:53 UTC
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Okay, I'll bite. When did the MGM edition of Babes in Toyland come out?
And what other movies is it packaged with?

And I've been yelling since I first commenced it, I'm against it.
Groucho Marx, Horsefeathers (1932)
Darren
2007-12-08 08:33:30 UTC
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I prefer duh 200 ft 8mm version.

just one man's opinion.


Darren
Homer
2007-12-09 03:26:03 UTC
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are they color also?

Are they from the original masters?
Post by Jim Reid
Post by Homer
I've found the Babes in Toyland DVD colorized by Good times video for
only $2.00 at tow different Big Lots near me. Possibly in other
cities as well.
I'd almost give $2 to get someone to take mine off my hands. The new
MGM release has made all other versions obsolete.
Jim Reid
2007-12-09 09:18:11 UTC
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It was released last month and is packed with The Bishop's Wife and
Pocketful of Miracles. It is only in B&W, as it was originally
produced. The packaging still says March of the Wooden Soldiers, but
the film itself has the original Babes in Toyland titles.
Homer
2007-12-11 02:18:06 UTC
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The color legends version looks promising over the goodtimes dvd

Legends homepage shows how they clean it up

http://legendfilms.com/ - browse to march of wooden shoulders



http://www.amazon.com/March-Wooden-Soldiers-Frank-Austin/dp/B000HLDFKO/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1197339272&sr=8-2
Post by Jim Reid
It was released last month and is packed with The Bishop's Wife and
Pocketful of Miracles. It is only in B&W, as it was originally
produced. The packaging still says March of the Wooden Soldiers, but
the film itself has the original Babes in Toyland titles.
Eric Perlin
2008-03-25 18:56:20 UTC
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Homer wrote:

}
} The color legends version looks promising over the
} goodtimes dvd
}
} Legends homepage shows how they clean it up
}
} http://legendfilms.com/ - browse to march of
} wooden shoulders

I just went to their site and I see that they have a NEWLY colorized version of
"It's A Wonderful Life". No matter how advanced the technology may be,
colorizing "It's A Wonderful Life" is a bone-headed idea! Both Frank Capra and
Jimmy Stewart were strongly opposed to colorization, regardless of how it's
done. This is like peeing on their graves.

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