Discussion:
Hal Roach films that could use music tracks
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Eric Perlin
2008-04-25 12:28:04 UTC
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The Little Rascals film "The First Seven Years" could be greatly enhanced by
music. I once watched it while playing a CD of Raymond Scott music and it really
enhanced it, particularly the scene when Wheezer was rolling downhill inside of
a huge pipe.

"They Go Boom" is a very funny and underrated L&H film, but it could be made
even better with the addition of a fitting music track. "The Perfect Day" was
made during the same period and also was originally released with no music;
however, the version usually seen today is from a 1936 re-issue with music
added. Music could enhance this film as much as it did "Perfect Day".

"The Hoosegow": Everything I just wrote about "They Go Boom" also applies to
this film.

"Beau Hunks": It's interesting that a music band that specializes is re-creating
Hal Roach film music is named after this film with no music track. I would love
to see "Beau Hunks" re-issued with a score added by the Beau Hunks.

"Their First Mistake": The deliberately campy melodramatic scene with Stan
wanting to leave Ollie with the baby would be so much better with some maudlin
music underneath. The various sight gags involving L&H trying to take care of
the baby would also go over even better with the addition of background music.

"Oliver the Eighth": Although it has a very funny scene with L&H being served an
imaginary dinner, and one of Stan Laurel's all-time funniest lines of dialogue,
on the whole this film is below-par, and a fitting music score could help.

There would be an obvious objection to releasing Hal Roach films in versions
that differ from how they were originally made. However, in many cases, Hal
Roach films were released without music scores only when they were falling
behind schedule and didn't have time to add music tracks. Both "Perfect Day" and
"County Hospital" were originally released with no music tracks, but today are
most frequently seen in later versions with music tracks added. "Blotto" and
"Brats" were re-released with alternate music tracks different from the
originals.
Hal Erickson
2008-04-25 16:58:11 UTC
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Post by Eric Perlin
"Their First Mistake": The deliberately campy melodramatic scene with Stan
wanting to leave Ollie with the baby would be so much better with some maudlin
music underneath. The various sight gags involving L&H trying to take care of
the baby would also go over even better with the addition of background music.
I'll go along with every title you mentioned but this one. I think it works
fine without a music track "commenting" on the humor. However, I wish they'd
kept the original ending with the twin babies.

Both "Perfect Day" and
Post by Eric Perlin
"County Hospital" were originally released with no music tracks, but today are
most frequently seen in later versions with music tracks added. "Blotto" and
"Brats" were re-released with alternate music tracks different from the
originals.
Conversely, I've seen prints of "Below Zero" with musical scoring (mostly
non-Shield stock themes previously used in the Charley Chase comedies)
throughout the second reel--but the
current "official" version from Hallmark has no such music.
unknown
2008-04-25 21:28:13 UTC
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I've often wondered about the need to fill in every single second with music
or dialog. Disney added music to music-less portions of Miyazaki films when
they Americanized them. I've seen plenty of instances where dubbers added
dialog when no one was actually speaking.

What's wrong with a little quiet?
Post by Eric Perlin
However, in many cases, Hal
Roach films were released without music scores only when they were falling
behind schedule and didn't have time to add music tracks.
Yet, don't let anyone suggest that a film was shot in black-and-white only
because there wasn't enough money for color.
Post by Eric Perlin
Both "Perfect Day" and
"County Hospital" were originally released with no music tracks, but today are
most frequently seen in later versions with music tracks added.
Do the originals still exist?
Post by Eric Perlin
"Blotto" and
"Brats" were re-released with alternate music tracks different from the
originals.
What was the reason behind that?
Rollo
2008-04-28 05:06:15 UTC
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Stan Laurel himself advocated a music score to all their films when
the team began
making talkies. He felt their pantomime would play better that way
and I for one
certainly agree.

Gary J.
Ray Faiola
2008-04-29 15:47:04 UTC
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My favorite examples of music "spotting" in shorts are the early Max
Fleischer Popeye cartoons. While every short had music, there were
pockets of footage that were sans scoring. It really heightened the
ambience of the rest of the soundtrack and gave greater weight to the
surrounding music. Very, very unusual for their time.

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