Edgar Kennedy

[Walter Traprock]

The two disc set of Edgar Kennedy shorts on VCI is just fine.

the movie Flirting With Danger (1934) is hilarious and edgy, the only
way to make it better is with a better picture quality than on the
tape.

[Brad Filippone]

Walter Traprock (***@hotmail.com) wrote:
: The two disc set of Edgar Kennedy shorts on VCI is just fine.

: the movie Flirting With Danger (1934) is hilarious and edgy, the only
: way to make it better is with a better picture quality than on the
: tape.

Does he say, "Oh Sh*t!!!" in any of them?

Brad

[Walter Traprock]

Post by Brad Filippone
: The two disc set of Edgar Kennedy shorts on VCI is just fine.
: the movie Flirting With Danger (1934) is hilarious and edgy, the only
: way to make it better is with a better picture quality than on the
: tape.
Does he say, "Oh Sh*t!!!" in any of them?

Not that I noticed, but Flirting With Danger is a feature film, and is
not on the VCI set. It's awesome, tho with a dirty picture, with good
enough sound. Explosives humor, out there. Risque and funny.

If you wish to see some classic expletives, check out the extras on the
Criterian edition of My Man Godfrey: the blooper section is less than a
minute or so, but includes Carole Lombard saying the above S-word.

[L***@hotmail.com]

I'm puzzled by this; VCI doesn't offer a 2-disc Edgar Kennedy set.

[Walter Traprock]

Post by L***@hotmail.com
I'm puzzled by this; VCI doesn't offer a 2-disc Edgar Kennedy set.

Yes, they do!

http://www.amazon.com/Edgar-Kennedy-Two-Reeler-Comedy-Collection/dp/B0000AC8ME/

[Rollo]

I came across both the Kennedy and Leon Errol
discs a few years back at a local Half Price book store.
I was so proud of myself for stumbling across it that
I assumed reams of 2 reels shorts were being put out
on DVD by smaller companies.
I assumed wrong but I continue to stumble along anyway.

By the by--a little Leon Errol goes a long way.

Gary J.

[L***@hotmail.com]

Post by Walter Traprock

Post by L***@hotmail.com
I'm puzzled by this; VCI doesn't offer a 2-disc Edgar Kennedy set.

Yes, they do!
http://www.amazon.com/Edgar-Kennedy-Two-Reeler-Comedy-Collection/dp/B...

That is, of course, a link to the 1-disc Edgar Kennedy offering from
VCI. That's an oldie.

[Walter Traprock]

Post by L***@hotmail.com

Post by Walter Traprock

Post by L***@hotmail.com
I'm puzzled by this; VCI doesn't offer a 2-disc Edgar Kennedy set.

Yes, they do!
http://www.amazon.com/Edgar-Kennedy-Two-Reeler-Comedy-Collection/dp/B...

That is, of course, a link to the 1-disc Edgar Kennedy offering from
VCI. That's an oldie.

Fours years ain't that old, and I think it may have been on VHS before.

I forgot how many discs it has, and must have thinking "dual".

I went for the Errol and stayed for the Edgar.

[Derek]

Post by L***@hotmail.com
I'm puzzled by this; VCI doesn't offer a 2-disc Edgar Kennedy set.

I have this two-disk Edgar Kennedy set. Shorts are good, but quality is
variable. Here's the Amazon link...


http://www.amazon.com/Edgar-Kennedy-Two-Reeler-Comedy-Collection/dp/B0000AC8ME/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-0507890-9420948?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1179608147&sr=8-1
Derek P.

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[Phil P.]

For anyone who cares to hear it, I've posted a 24 second clip from the scene.
The phrase in question comes about 18 seconds in.

http://members.axion.net/~phil/OhSh&t.mp3

Post by r***@yahoo.com
Edgar uses the vulgar term for excrement in a Laurel & Hardy film, The
Perfect Day (1929). You'd never here something like that in Edgar's
RKO series because being post-code, there was little or no chance of
something like that slipping through. Its a lot of fun though.
Listen carefully near the end just before the parson comes walking
down the street. My guess is that we only hear it because we are
watching and listening with optimum 21st-Century sound systems and it
might not have been as clear amplified with 1929 audio technology.
Rob Farr
www.slapsticon.org

Post by Brad Filippone
: The two disc set of Edgar Kennedy shorts on VCI is just fine.
: the movie Flirting With Danger (1934) is hilarious and edgy, the only
: way to make it better is with a better picture quality than on the
: tape.
Does he say, "Oh Sh*t!!!" in any of them?
Brad

[Eric Perlin]

Phil P. wrote:

} For anyone who cares to hear it, I've posted a 24
} second clip from the scene. The phrase in question
} comes about 18 seconds in.
}
} http://members.axion.net/~phil/OhSh&t.mp3

My, God! He really _does_ say it! Very clearly and unmistakably, although amidst
other actor's dialogue.

Although I've seen the film many times, this sound clip finally made it clear.

Thanks for posting that link. It was some good sh*t.

[Larc]

On Sat, 19 May 2007 08:56:06 -0500, Eric Perlin
<***@SPAMSUCKSoptonline.net> wrote:

| Phil P. wrote:
|
| } For anyone who cares to hear it, I've posted a 24
| } second clip from the scene. The phrase in question
| } comes about 18 seconds in.
| }
| } http://members.axion.net/~phil/OhSh&t.mp3
|
| My, God! He really _does_ say it! Very clearly and unmistakably, although amidst
| other actor's dialogue.
|
| Although I've seen the film many times, this sound clip finally made it clear.

It's great! But wonder "who" said it? Was Edgar Kennedy that caught up in his
character or did he perhaps think something was wrong with that take and there
would have to be another one?

In short, any guesses whether that "Oh, sh*t!" was an ad-lib from the character
Uncle Edgar or an indication of disgust from Kennedy the actor?

Larc



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[Phil P.]

On Sat, 19 May 2007 08:56:06 -0500, Eric Perlin

Post by Eric Perlin
} For anyone who cares to hear it, I've posted a 24
} second clip from the scene. The phrase in question
} comes about 18 seconds in.
}
} http://members.axion.net/~phil/OhSh&t.mp3
My, God! He really _does_ say it! Very clearly and unmistakably, although amidst
other actor's dialogue.
Although I've seen the film many times, this sound clip finally made it clear.
Thanks for posting that link. It was some good sh*t.

No problem. If anyone wants to hear this, make it soon, as I'm going to remove
it after tomorrow.

[Eric Perlin]

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[Walter Traprock]

Post by Eric Perlin
Although sound technology has improved since 1929, remember that the version
most of us have seen is from the 1937 reissue, which had a music track added.
The original 1929 version had no music track at all, which might have made
the expletive even more clear and noticeable!

How common is added music tracks for reissues? The music should not have
been added to the original.

[Hal Erickson]

Post by Walter Traprock

Post by Eric Perlin
Although sound technology has improved since 1929, remember that the version
most of us have seen is from the 1937 reissue, which had a music track added.
The original 1929 version had no music track at all, which might have made
the expletive even more clear and noticeable!

How common is added music tracks for reissues? The music should not have
been added to the original.

At Hal Roach, evidently only the Laurel & Hardy reissues were dubbed with
new background music (these were
PERFECT DAY, BLOTTO, BRATS and COUNTY HOSPITAL, even though both BLOTTO and
BRATS orginally had background scores comprised of popular songs and themes
written for silent movies with musical soundtracks). When AMC was showing
the Little Rascals shorts about 5-7 years ago, some of the early talkies
were outfitted with recreated LeRoy Shield themes, just as happened to a few
films on THE LAUREL AND HARDY SHOW in the mid-1980s (the 'Rascals' films
were more appropriately scored, however).

Outside of these, I know that the MICKEY McGUIRE talkie shorts were
re-edited from two reels to one reel and outfitted with musical scores when
they were reissued in the late 1930s to capitalize on the latter-day stardom
of Mickey Rooney. Also, some idiot at Universal imposed an awful "dramatic"
musical cue upon the ending of the 1947 ALL QUIET ON THE WESTERN FRONT
reissue which completely destroyed the mood of the final shot. And I've seen
prints of the 1931 DRACULA both with and without the "End" music.

A few public-domain films have been reissued with different musical tracks
to avoid copyright problems, a la LOVE AFFAIR and THE SECOND WOMAN. And
thanks to a hassle with Jimmy Petrillo and the musician's union, several
Lippert and Eagle-Lion films made between 1948 and 1951 were rescored for
early television release. (Let's not forget all those P-D prints of such TV
series as BEVERLY HILLBILLES, PETTICOAT JUNCTION and BONANZA with the
familiar title themes taken out and new compositions wedged in). And outside
the realm of films, many of the transcriptions of the old "Shadow" radio
program were redubbed when the series was re-syndicated in the early 1960s,
with the organ-music transitions removed and stock music added whenever the
distributor was unable to locate and financially compensate the original
organist, but that's another story...

--Hal E